This is an amazing find. I’ve never heard of this film before. Subtitles would have been a good idea, but it’s a good watch anyway. Thanks Dave!
I was in the same class in Dingle vale with George. We grew up together from Matthew Arnold School to DVS
In the late 50′s I was in a skiffle group called the “Dingle Dices” with Dougie Meakin, John Mahoney,Tony Evans. As time progressed we new Skiffle had had it’s day. Dougie wanted to form a proper Beat Group. We were all working now where as before we used improvised instruments’ Dougie’s Dad A;lbert’ even made his son a Guitar from a Kit! John Mahoney was a wizard in electrics self taught. He would make amplifiers out of old wireless case’s and even made his parents a stereo unit from an old cabinet. It was proposed that we all take out a hire purchase agreement with Hessy’s in town and buy the necessary instruments. Seeing asI had been the washboard player
I had moved over to 1 ‘ yes 1′ Snare Drum. I was at the time an apprentice in Dysons earning around £3.00. per/week. There was no way I could get hire purchase let alone afford it, So my very short band career came to an end. Soon after The Group became quite known in Liverpool called the Mindbenders they had to alter this name as there was another group on the scene at that time which were hughlie popular. It was at this time I think’ when George joined the group as Base Player. They made one appearence on Ready Steady Go! with a Bob Dylan Number. Afterwards I heard that George had indeed Joined the Merseybeats.
I lived in beresford rd and went to dvs 1954to1959,joined merseyside unity theatre group through gym teacher Gerry dawson ,,we won the british drama league festival and scored a FREE TRIP TO GERMANY.Dougie Meakin was with us and we had an absolute ball lots of laughs etc.I,ve lived in Australia now for forty years but still have fond memories of my upbringing in the Dingle Regards Syd Nickson
hi syd, I was in mathew arnold and dingle vale,what prompted me to get in touch was your mention of gerry dawson,
they say you always remember a good teacher, he was the one I remember.
I was there in the early 60′s….not much left of where you asked about,cockburn street is still as it was, but all the streets you mentioned are gone, just one pub left on park road, the pinapple….
jessies at the bottom and the nob hill at the top are still there …but now they are funeral parlours!
also it’s freezin cold!!!! you’re much better off in oz mate! all the best.
hi tommy roe,do you have a brother called russel roe.MY FATHER george johnson was a mate of russell in the 60s with billy hogg.I just wondered did you know these lads.thanks kev johno, from south street in the 60s
Hi Sid yes i remember with happy memories touring with “THE FOX TAP” i think it was called. and 0ld gerry great to hear your ok that documetary doesn’t talk bad about anyone and ther’s not much more scenes on the dingle but i’m making a copy in english if you’re interested but it’ll be a while yet. lovely to hear you’re ok cheers Dougie.
hi ye Doug,Didn’t think I’d hear from you after all this time,the play was the fox trap,we did have a lot of laughs didn,t we remember Herr fuch and Frau Shite,I followed your career on line and sounds like you have had a ball doing what you liked.Look me up on facebook .Like to hear from you.Cheers Syd
Dougie Meakin…….are you the very same Meakin that lived in Drysdale St? I lived in Miller St., went to Parkhill Road School then DVS. We moved to Beresford Rd. One evening you and your skiffle group came to our house. Now that would have been in the late 50s. Are you this Dougie Meakin? I always had a crush on you but it never went anywhere I think you head was in the music! I hope you see this and respond.
Hi Roy – just read your lines on Dougie Meakin and the Masterminds… I suppose you know that Dougie left Liverpool in ’65 with a newly formed group called Motowns and became very popular in Italy, releasing many records that made the charts in the mid-late 60s there.Dougie still lives in Rome and never stopped playing and singing. He just turned 68 and is a proud grandad. Lally Stott was also part of the Motowns. He returned to the UK, wrote the hit “Chirpie-Chirpie Cheep-Cheep” and sadly died in a road accident. Check out this site for more pictures of the Motowns and many others, part of the “Brit Invasion” to Italy, http://www.beatsessanta.it .
I’m sorry I do not remember you? I lost touch with Dougie when I got married (as you do ) and although we stayed in the Dingle upto 67 I heard from Dougie’s Brother-in-law Jim I think he was called, that Dougie had gone to Italy. I have tried on Facebooke but upto now no luck. We are the same age as well and it would be nice if we could make contact. We moved about Cheshire and Shropshire before ending up in Valencia 41/2 year ago.
Thanks for the info’ anyway Pat.
hello roy, this is dougie here what a blast from the past to see your message well i did carry on playing we changed our name to “the msterminds that film you saw was a german documentary we made in 1964 it just talks about the boom of groups in the 60′s and how liverpool wasin those times, icarried on playing and have been in rome italy for 46 yr’s now writing and playing songs for italian t.v. i’ve got a smashin’ family Rita my wife and Christian and Krystall two lovely kids and now i’m a very proud grandad to a bella grandaughter Angelica i’m o ver the moon i saw this sight and i’m still very proud to have grown up in the Dingle.
Hi Roy Hall. My name is Ron Egerton. I was born at 74 Hurry Street L 8 IN 1941. I also went to Mathew Arnold School and onto Dingle Vale School. When I was in my early teens I started in a skiffle group with Gerry Marsden and his brother Freddy and another bloke can’t remember his name. My mam went to Frank Hessey’s and bought me a guitar good one paid £17.10 shillings on the spread. I think it was called a Zenith chello type. I packed in with the group and my mam sold the guitar to Gerry Marsden via his mam. My Mam and his mam were friends.
We meaning my sister really was friends with Richard Starkey ( Ringo Star ) before he joined the Beatles I think his mother used to live in Hurry Street at some time..
From my school day memories I can remember a couple of teachers one from Mathew Arnold called Makin and 2 from Dingle Vale gym teacher called Gerry Dawson great guy and one little …… called Hoole thiscguy stood at the school gate with a cane down the leg of his trousers and if you misted the whistle at start of school out came the cane and he would wack every one who was late. Any way Roy I could go on except to say it’s been great sorcing this page Good luck I.M 74 YRS OLD NOW
I was born and raised in the Dingle, and this brought back memories to me, BUT – you all went to Dingle Vale, no mention of the better school – good, old Welly Road!
All in fun (I did try to get into Dingle Vale, but they wouldn’t have me) I lived too far up Park Road to qualify
My sister Glady’s went to wellie rd about 1949-50 I was supposed to go there but couldn’t stand heights(at playtime)
Did you live off Park Road and have a brother called Cliff or Dougie? He went out with a girl called Margaret who was a friend of mine!
All you folk who went to DVS I was there from 1963 – 67 unfortunately don’t recognise any names but would love to hear from anyone from my old days I was Barbara Mc Donald then and married Tony McCarthy from South Hill road block.
My name is Toni and I am searching (secretly) on behalf of my mum Marjorie born 1950 she also went to Wellington Road School. Im not sure what years but she was in St Cleopas before that, she was one of three with brothers John (also known as Johno, Allan & Don (also known as Doke), I dont suppose you remmeber them?
An interesting film and as I speak a bit of German. t makes out that the majority of the youth in the Dingle are baddies and go round beating up old ladies with bike chains and pinching their bags.
I would like to see the whole film.
Think you ve got your wires crossed here Ron, George Cassidy was a member of a group and also played with the Merseybeats, he or his friends or anyone else in Dingle House went round beating up old ladies. If you interpret it properly, you can understand things like Ringo Starr, this is because George was heavily involved in the local music scene!
sorry that should read, neither he or his friends beat up old women!!!
Are you the same Brenda who lived in South Hill House on F landing, mother was Esther I am Vinnie marnell born in 11e later lived in 10 f after tennies were modernised/
I WAS BORN IN DINGLE HOUSE IN 1947 ,KNEW ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE VIDEO BROUGHT BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES
hi maureen we must know each other,i lived in arthur st, born 46 live in gambia now new ethel usher, alan scot, alan morton.hope your well.
do you know thompsons park hill road
You may remember me . Phil Nieman .
Lived at No 16 Arthur St.
Played many games of cricket and football with you .
Sadly it is all down now .
Hope you and your family are keeping well and are all in good health .
My cousins lived at 17F Dingle House. Jimmy, Brian, John, Maureen, Pat & Eileen Tracy
I used to go there in the 1950′s
Hello maureen,.Do you remember me Brenda Kay from Southhill house we lived in 8c? x
I remember you i lived at 3a Southill House,i was a mate of your Emily,Betty Smith,Jean Southern
great to hear of You hope you and Emily are keeping well,they were the fun days in the block
fantastic would love a copy if possible, can you e-mail me the details – thanks
I was also born and raised in Dingle House, and know lots of the people on there,I would also like a copy if possible please. Thank you for screening this.
Hi.Brenda,don’t know if you remember me and my family my sister was Gladys we lived in 7e,Iwent to live in Canada when i retured my mum and dad had been moved to number 20e, the Nelsons flat. Are you the sister of Lilian Wright, who lied on the top landing?I went to live in th block about 1946, I still keep in touch with Arthur Craven he lives in Skem, Must close now remember me to all the folks that may remember me. Bill Croft.
hi billy do you remember me, i was born in 7f dingle house. my mum was josie and my dad tommy wilson. i used to babysit for your sister gladis. i lived there till they was demolished in 1986 brings back old memories.
Hi Bill (Croft), yes I remember Gladys well, think she was my mum’s bridesemaid, Lilly is my auntie, my dad was Billy Wright, we lived with my nan in 11F when I was born then we went to live in South Hill House, my mum’s name was Esther (Acky) Atkins, my nanny Acky lived in 17E Dingle House, we did have a pic of your Gladys on my mum’s wedding, but unfortunately t got lost when my mum died.. will tell our Lil you mentioned her.
hi bill do you remember me i was glady’s friend your mother made the best coconut cakes in the block
Hi Bill Do You Remember Me Janet Frazer I lived In 9E I Was friends With Gladys Say Hello
I think Ron was saying that the German comments where saying that the Dingle was rough, not that Georgie Cassidy was. It was rough, and there were baddies around, just like any other city in the land. There was also lots of respect for older people and people would bend over backwards to help each other, even people they didn’t particularly like.It’s good to see me Gan standing outside our house,well me 2nd home ..lol. I would love a copy of the full documentary too. Nice one
Saw my nan kitty and auntie mary loads of memories and a few tears fantatic. Would love a copy for my mum janet x
This is great. Makes you smile and at the same time brings a tear to your eye. I would love a copy.
Great film. pity the rest of it is not available
Just wondering are you the same Robbie who used to knock about with my mums brother Steve Kelly? I am his nephew Vinnie Marnell
Thanks for the comments folks. I don’t know where you can get a copy of this. I have the full version of it. I’ll see if it’s possible to put it online.
LOVED IT U TURNED BACK TIME
Hi, this is great! Please can you send me a full copy of the video, I will be willing to pay!
Great clip, played down there as a kid in the 50s & 60s. Love to see the whole film.
I went to the same schools as george, I was in the same classes at school, I can rememer him bringing a set of drums in when we were in the 4 th year at dingle vale, I think it may be the same year are year we all went to longerheads north Wales, I seem to think he left school before me, this is the first time I have seen him in 50 odd years, how time passes so quick, love a copy of the film, ps I can never remember george fighting at school, he always seemed quiet and his mate Billy mc nulty,thanks for the memory.
my dad was born in dingle house in 1941, my nan is on the video smoking x
hi sandra i lived in 8d dingle my family was one of the first to move in my mums maiden name was winnie heron,the lady smoking in the film was our nextdoor neighbour,and my mums mate elsie humphries,happy times it was fab
frank elsie humphreys is my nan, her son tommy is my dad x
hi sandra, say hello 2 your dad 4 me, colin lancaster of 21 arthur st living in gambia now, will be in lord warden bottom of london rd on 11th of 11th.bout 10am.godbless .
My mum was born in Dingle Vale in 1943 – Her name was Dorothy Thompson – Her mother was Ellen (Nelly) Thompson. I think they were in 3c, but could be wrong.
I remember your mum she lived in 3a she had a brother Gorden,
she took over my job in Wolfendens when I left in 1967
Could you email me? Tim.1803 “at” gmail.com “@”? I would love to ask my mum, Doe, to email you
Memories, I was born in Dingle Mount in 1952 fantastic times, went to Mathew Arnold then Dingle Vale.
Would love to see the whole of the video.
DEAR SIR I GREW UP IN DINGLE HOUSE I WAS THREE YEARS OLD WHEN THIS FILM WAS MADE,
PLEASE PLEASE COULD YOU SEND ME A COPY SO I CAN VIEW THE WHOLE FILM.
I COULD SEE THE PLACE WE LIVED IN IT WAS AMAZING,
AND BROUGHT BACK SO MANY MEMORIES , I WOULD BE SO GREATFULL, THANKYOU
fantastic Memories Made me smile but also brought a tear to my eye I was born in Dingle House as was my sisters Dawn, Paula & Debbie Are mum is Nephinia Longworth/Fay Beckett. I could just picture me Nanna Winnie standing on the landing ha ha, I now live in Australia and have done for the past 29 years and would be ever so gratefull if i could get a copy of this video, i am willing to pay would love to show my children where i come from as i often talk about Dingle House to them THANKS this video made my day. Lisa (Beckett)
Great film. Would love to see more if possible. Do you know where I can get any old photos of the Dingle? I lived in Greig Street
I lived in The Dingle from 1961-1968 and loved it. This footage really tugs at the heart strings. oh the days of innocence. I remember my Dad taking me and my sister to both the parks, Princes and Sefton and the old Fire Station in Bevedere Road. Does anyone the Ice Cream Parlour in Park Road ? Now living in London but each time i’m home me and Dad usually take a trip down to the South End. I used to attend St Finbars School and would love to hear from anyone who also went there,
Warm Regards To All George.
PS: It would be great to see the whole film !
The ice-cream parlour was Capaldi’s. I think there might still be one in Kensington. Do you remember the fancy cake shop on the left side of Park Road (looking downhill) ? We called it Leafy Martin’s, but I suspect it was a French shop and its name an ‘interpretation’ rather than translation! I too, now live in London. I attended Upper Park Street School, the Toxteth High School.
I went to mount Carmel school, and the only time I went to capaldis was after I had been to the dentists…my mother used to take me as a treat….Bizarre….taking me there to get more cavities….Toxteth mums were great
Veronica, I know your name. I have a feeling you were friends with my sister Pat (we lived in Wynnstay Street).
HI Yes…..our mums were great friends….Our whole family gradually moved out to Prestatyn ,North wales in about 1969…..I had three sisters.Lily.Eileen..both now sadly passed away with breast cancer and a younger sister Joan…also two older brothers James..who lives in Australia..and Richie who lives in New Zealand…I have three lovely daughters and 7 Grandkids…..Lovely to think of younger days
great film would love to see the whole lot of it, loved living in the blocks
great film brought back all the memories of the blocks
is that the block where all the orange lived
Great clip what is the name of the full movie,brings back a lot of memories..
Where can i get the movie?
What a great clip, thanks you so much for posting it. Would be great to see the full film if there is anymore clips of Dingle House. My family were also born in Dingle house they lived there from about the 1940′s till 1986 when it was demolished. Family names include Wilson, Bell and Harwood.
Hi, you mention the Harwoods…My grandfather was a Harwood, Tom, lots of brothers and he lived in Dingle House.
Hi Ian, your grandfather Tommy Harwood, was his wife and his daughter’s name Phyllis? if so they lived next door to us in South Hill House, I spend many a night sitting with Phyllis watching their telly (we never had one).. Phyllis was older than me but we still spent time together, they moved to Speke, I went up to see them a few times with my mum and they came down to ours, but lost touch.
Hi Brenda, sorry I have only just seen your reply….Yes, my nan was Phyllis and yes they moved to speak. Nan died 10 years ago and grandad tommy 5. My mum, their daughter Phyllis is still alive and lives on the Wirral. Dad still does the accounts for the SAMS club (Southern Area Memorial Hall)….Are you still in Liverpool?
Hi Ian, yes am still in the Dingle, am in a flat now on Park Road, right by the new Tesco, I lived next door to the Gaumont Picture house for 27 years (your mum will remember the Gaumo) but sold up recently and moved to a flat, much better for me.
Ian told me about this. I live on the wirral now, have 2 children, Ian and Lesley. both grown up with children themselves.
I remember the old times very well, we had some laughs with your mum!
Cracking clip, I was also born and bred in the block at 1F, moved to Speke in 1963, but still went to the block every night to see my mates some of them – Gerry McConville, Alfie Frances, Brian Mitchell, Terry Dooley, The McCartneys and loads more, seems like yesterday looking at the clip, marvellous, fully emigrated now and live in Wigan
Hi Alan, I remember you well, you were the same age as me, I remember you going out with Brenda Wilson when we were kids… my name was Wright, my nan lived in 11F, Terry Dooley was my cousin …
Hi Brenda I remember you and most of the others who have left comments, Alfie Francis, Tommy Brown, Maureen Dooley, the Longworth girls and most of the others, what a community it was, but I dont think we realised at the time, cant turn the clock back, but lots of great memories
Alright lad…..how’s you. The clip is very good and as you said, I don’t think we realised at the time just how special the community spirit in the blocks was. It was good to see my old grandad on our step. I hope all is well with yourself. If you get a chance have a look at this slide show I made and put on youtube, watch part 2 as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNxq7sBLcGw&feature=plcp. Take care, Tommy Brown.
i lived of dingle lane for over 30 years very close community we spent our youth playing football in those blocks great memories place was filled with characters.
I lived in 8 d Dingle House from 1934 – 1960.Does anyone remember Diddle Stant,Ronnie Daly,Bob Lee ( a black vicious mongrel that frightened all the kids) Kenny Fitzmorris Tommy Brophy – or any of the 12 of them.I went to Mount Carmel (the tin school) Great days!!! Jimmy Heron
hi jimmy my dad was diddels stanley we moved out in 1969 what a fella my dad waswe had agreat life in dingle house but my mum primmy wanted a garden rember my nanny stant lived in 3b and we lived i 8b sadley my dad dad passed away in 74 we still miss him i have a great photo of dad an uncle tom and tommy linsner and there were 2 other mates one might be you why was he called diddels all the best jimmy jani was 18 when we left
Hi Janet, just found you name on a dingle website, can’t believe it’s you after all these years. How are you? I often think about you and your family, forgot to say who it is, I am Barbara Evans, I do hope you still remember me. Jan do you remember doing my hair for my wedding? Love to catch up some time Lots of love to all of the family, Barbara x
Hi barb of course I remember you thank you so much for remembering me do you still live in widnes may be we could meet in pesto for lunch one day and catch up thanks a million jan xxx
Hi Janet, sorry for the delay. I would love to see you again, I moved to Formby when I remarried. Anywhere would be fine with me looking forward to seeing you again, Love Barbara xxx.
I lived in Southill House 18a corner ground floor, was the best place in the world to grow up. Went to Matthew Arnold Primary school, loved the place. Do you have any photographs of the area from that time
lived 75 south hill rd. next to the tenny. absalutly fantastic days.
hi terry went 2 maggy ann and dingle vale with billy shaw he lived off grafton st.
steve thompson parkhill road
thompsons parhill road
i was born in dingle house moved to south hill when i was 5 married leslie ormesher joey hounslea donald bagshaw cyril huges margeret collins she used to play goalie for the lads sylvia even florence christy the clarks lads frankie loftus loads more what times we had used to tell ghost storie sitting on the cold stairs all go to new ferry baths on a sunday loads of good memories burning judus the doing potatoes in the ashes
Bill & I were married on the same day as you, we even went to the same place on honeymoon, remember we met up for a drink!
Hi Phyllis, I used to live next door to you, my mum was Esther and my dad was Billy, I was the eldest of the 3 girls, I used to come in and sit in yours sometimes and watch your t.v. I remember visiting your mum and dad up in speke, went up there with my mum.
Hi Amy, I remember burning Judas at Easter, there was one year in South Hill where someone put a lorry tyre on the bonnie, there was murder.. … what year did you live there? We lived at 18a until the 70s
i lived in high park street next door to mount carmel club moynihams sweet shop on corner tay street happy days there our local pub was the queens corner of devonshire road our lovely shopping trips down park road princes park and sefton park on the doorstep i wrote a poem about the dingle i will send it later joyce xx
We lived in Moville St off Park Rd married in Mt Carmel in 1968 and went to Mt Carmel club every Sunday night ended up living in Fullwood Village until November 1984 when we moved to Southampton. Nothing like Liverpool, never have friends and a community like that again. Keep well nice to talk.
Regards Vic Beckett
poem by joyce clark called the magic of the 50s i had a walk down memory lane but places never seemed the same my primary school in beaufort street was the place my friends would meet the playyard we would laugh and play stands now forlorn its had its day mill street were we used to shop old friends gone but not forgot the palace isnow an empty shell so much memories it can tell excited kids couldnt wait to go to see thier favourite picture show florence institute stands in ruin no more laughter can be heard no sign of life anywere i happily spent my childhood there now today no one cares my little home in woodruff street the street i used to play as now long gone to my dismay time goes so quickly time does fly i wiped a tear straight from my eye the 50 s was a magic time these memories will always be mine written by joyce clark nee mccabe
that was great joyce, park palace,the berry, the gormo,and if we were very good the mayfair.l.o.l.
I was 12 when we left Woodruff Street for Woolton in 1960 but I know the name Mcabe from then ?
lots of memories of the block and all mates sandy,jimmy,alan,tommy,terry,the mac,s,kenny,gerry,bobby mick,gorge, our brian mick,jimmy bamber,brian jones,and all the rest of the and girls of dingle house ,nice to see the block again,
I remember the film being made, i think part of it was made in the kings dock, would love to see the whole film, how would i get a copy or could you publish a copy on the internet or send it to my email address, thanks.
I am not sure if you can help with this request, I was watching the footage of Dingle Block and was wandering if you are in any way involved in maybe retrieving a copy of the whole Video if so could you please reply. I currently live in Australia but all my Family still live in Liverpool and my mum and her 2 sisters lived in Dingle Block and myself and My 3 sisters where all born there.
Daughter of one of the Longworth Girls
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hi i lived in 20d dingle house from 1962 to 71 just watched vid clip showing the block brought back so many memories of best years of my childhood dont know if anyone remembers me but i remember a few family names from my days there such as the lightfoots, the kings, mingards, aldridges,the jones’s, lamberts, would love to chat with anyone from my time in dingle house or the surrounding area thanks. john nestor
h,i john , i remember you from the block.used to live at 16b,my memories of the block aint so rosey .
Hi Dave lived in the block from 1961 to 1971. I was good mates with David and Paul Lightfoot. Do you still live in the dingle. Does anyone remember my dad Reggie or my mum Veronica Burke and Uncle Vinny Burke .
came onto this clip a bit late, but very interested in getting a full copy if still available, let’s know.
does anyone remember the mcinerneys from dingle
My Nan and Grandad lived in 16f (Mary Shipsides nee Griffiths and George Shipsides). Does anyone have any memories or information about them. They lived there in 1941.
colin lancaster, i remember the name from mathew arnold and dingle vale, i lived in southill house, was a great mate of alan scott who lived in dingle house, played football for the mount, or the six day house , as it was known, we would meet outside dingle house on a sunday morning then go to the game by coach, the coach was always full, great memories.
Hi Alan, I too lived in South Hill House, in 15e first, then we swapped with Mrs. Prendergast and lived in 7D, I remember Alan Scott very well, he was good friends with my cousins, Terry and Willy Dooley, did you know that Alan and his wife were, unfortunately, killed by their son who was a schizophrenic, very tragic, Tommy Linsner was a good mate of Alan’s too! My two nan’s lived in Dingle House. What number did you live in?
that,s sound alan. scotty was a good mate of mine, and alan morton (spike) from the next block john moulton from southhill rd, used 2 ride all over north wale,s on are bike,s. playing down the cassy .great day,s .am living in gambia now .done 33years at ford,s and 13years in 4para reserve. great 2 read this page.
Hello fellow Dingle-ites,
What happy memories i still have of living in Dingle House we lived in 7c,
I’m trying to trace the family & fate of a lady who lived for years at 9e Dingle House. Sounds like many of you must have known her. Her name was Margaret Birch, born around 1905ish. She was definitely at Dingle house in 1944 & got remarried from there in 1968, then in her 60s, although the marriage was not in Liverpool. Any help would be very much appreciated. Please phone me on 0151-249 7597. Many thanks!
My wife and i were both brought up in Bowring St, Dingle. She was friends with Christine Costello, Linda Wealthy she can remember a girl called Sylvia. We both reminisce although on a seperate basis, when you walked through the entrance of the Tenny’ from Dingle lane on a Sunday at 12.00. you got a waft of “Sunday Roast” I bet this brings back memories for a lot of people, wherever they may be…mmm still smell it now!!
Hi Roy, Christine Costello lived in my block South Hill House, the one right by Matthew Arnold, there was another girl called Sylvia Evans, is this who you re thinking of? and yes, as you walked along each landing in the ‘block’ you could smell the roasts emanating from each flat… happy days.
Yes Brenda it was Sylvia Evans. Thanks for this. When we got married we lived at my Grandma’s house in China Town (Granville St) We then moved to Byles st,back in the Dingle then as always’you want independance so we took a house in Plevna St, right next to Matthew Arnold playground. I would walk through the Tenny’s at 5.30 a.m to get a bus to the Pier Head then get the ferry to Woodside then get the bus (if I had the fair) or walk with a run down to Cammell Lairds to start at 7.30.a.m. Not complaining, had a job’ second child on the way time to move on!! no regrets.
Whenwe wereat Matthew Arnold School they organised a trip to Port St,Mary Isle of Man. We slept in a church hall on straw pailiases. Me George and Im not too sure but Billy McNulty might have been with us. We went to Woolies and bought a few nick nacks and some other things that seemd to fall into our pockets. George was as far I know, the only one who wrote to his mum and sister nearly every day. He would send broches in the post. He had a wonderful temperament. He would never belong or imbibe to any violence group. In fact none of my Dingle friends had had any trouble with the police. Our parents strictly working class with Working class values,that’s how we were brought up.Also I had never heard of any violence towards old people in the neighbourhood. That’s not to say we were Angels we were’nt.. But avoided bad company whenever we could. Before I left Liverpool I remember reading in the Echo that George had just been made upto Sargeant in the Royal Marines! Would love to know what he’s upto.
hi roy,colin lancaster here from sunny gambia 80f at mo.i remember the isle of man trip couldent beleave it when the porthole,s went underwater on the trip out.remember the trip to romley marsh in kent had never seen apple and pear tree,s lining the road before they dident last long. next trip i remember was 2 italy with jerry dawson and his wife 1 easter we beat eyeties at futty.happy day,s mate.
Hi Roy, George Cassidy is my uncle he joined the marines and moved to Portsmouth where he met his wife Anne and had 2 sons Craig and Graham, Craig inherited his dads love of music and is a talented guitarist/drummer, after leaving the marines he moved back up north and is now living in Ellesmere Port. He’s retired now but still playing guitar like a pro
Great to see your name Roy, there was only a couple of Halls in Matthew Arnold and Dingle Vale and I think it was you and me, I dont know if we are family,I moved out of the Dingle when I was 14 up to the green fields of Childwall, I have moved about all over the place in the last 53 years. Its great to see all the names I know from my school days . I delivered papers working for Mr Cooper in Cockburn Street, in the area the tennies and the shore field streets, I could always read the comics before any one else, in the summer months not the winter, it was a little on the cold side and there was always wind running up the river mersey. I can remember the smells first thing of a morning of toast some times bacon frying, if there was any other aromas I could not smell it as I could not wait to get home, to get my breakfast , it was specular on a Sunday, were everyone seemed to have a fry up or salt fish, ( did not like salt fish)At Christmas my packets would be full of coins with the tips that I had been given from very good natured people of my little area in the Dingle, god bless all of them.
Yes Syd I think you are right.There were few Hall’s about the Dingle I do remember you as I still have a photo of Matthew Arnold with all the kids we went to School with. Names like Billy Mcnulty,Barry Bilsborough (went to his 60th) Eddie Pope, Tony Edwards,Yourself and lots more whom I cannot recall their names. My first job was in Waterworths Park Road. I started there when I was 13 just before Christmas I was amazed with the amount of tips I got. I gave my Mum the wages and kept the tips myself. I could go to the Gaumo’ and watch a U film! and buy an Orange Maid! We still have a Fry-up on Sunday (in Spain since 2009) but we have it for Brunch. I also moved around last place was Market Drayton Shropshire. Had enough of various things going on in UK mainly the bloody weather as we, my wife and I suffer from Arthritis so the warmer weather helps. The Dingle was a great place in Liverpool to be in it had it’s drawbacks but one thing for sure it taught you damn good Streetology which kept us out of trouble etc, Hope you have had a good Christmas mate, All the best from Roy.
I too went to Matthew Arnold, I have a photo of Mr Savage the headmaster. I lived on Homer st, also on Garswood st. My dad was born and lived on Plevna St. The name Barry billsborough rings a bell he lived 2 doors away from me. Also Freddie Davis. I actually passed my 11 plus exam and went to Hillfoot Hey. My dad went to D.V.S. It was rough growing up but great memories. Anyone remember burning Judas at Easter, we used to get up at 5 a.m. get wood from anywhere and burn it at the bottom of Homer St. Then we would fight the kids who would try and steal our wood. GREAT DAYS,
Have just discovered this website. It’s fascinating that you worked in Waterworths. I remember Waterworths greengrocers because I lived close by, above Vickers Television and Radio shop on Park Road. Next door to us we had Cleggs the grocer and the other side of us was a dry cleaners. On the corner there was a butcher. My mother worked evenings for a while in Eric’s chippy around the corner for a bit of extra money. I remember that living conditions were pretty poor (we were lucky enough to have a nice pale green bathroom suite in the flat but the luxury was an illusion. There was no hot water coming out of the taps – we had to boil water up in a big electric cauldron and bale it into the bath with buckets!) but there was a good sense of community. I was good friends with a couple of the girls from the flats, Ann Dooley and Rita Aldridge. We all went to “Maggie Ann”, as did my twin brother. Mr Savage was his headmaster and the headmistress of the girl’s school was Miss Eaton-Jones. My favourite teacher was the art teacher, Mrs Rowley – she encouraged me with my painting and drawing and I subsequently trained as an art teacher myself.
The places I remember are the Capaldi where they had a juke box and the most amazing Italian ice cream, Rene’s, the Castle, Ray’s china shop and the Co-op where they had a system where they put your money into a sort of metal jar and it whizzed along wires to an office where they gave you your change and receipt and sent it whizzing back down to the counter!
Lots of comments on the website brought back memories. Unfortunately,though I recognise street names etc, I haven’t seen any names that ring a bell. I was wondering, Roy, if you remember any of these names, because I’d dearly love any reminiscences: Cathy and David Newman (twins), Stanley Billingsley, David Maltby, Edith Tyrer, Sue Bannon, Rita Daley, Rita Aldridge, Ann Dooley, Kathleen Brady. All good wishes to you and yours for 2014.
Ive just come across this site after reading about matthew arnold school, it really has brought back memories. I remember Rita Daly Edith Tyler David Moltby-they all lived in Leonora Street as I did .I lived in number 5 .My grandad was the lollypop man on the crossing of Park road /Peel street/Southhill road I remember Kathleen Brady as she had the same birthday as me.We used to play in the cellars of Vickers,there was a salukie dog called Sheila! I also went to Dingle Vale.My best friend was Irene Goffey,she sadly died in 1974 as a result of a road accident.I still keep in touch with her cousin Cathy ( Povey).Do you see anyone from then?
Great memories of a bygone age ! my Nan and Grandad had a house on Grafton Street not far from the Iron Bridge, we used to watch the “puffer trains” as they went past and blew their whistle and waved to us !, a New year all the ships on the river would blow their sirens and let off flares !. The house was knocked down ad they ended up moving out to Kirby communitities ripped apart it was a crying shame ! they had been born and brought up in the area for over 70 years ….love to see the rest of the film XX
Hi my name is Patrick Gibbons and I’m looking for people who knew James & Patrick Gibbons who lived at 35a Dingle Mount there mother was Mary Atherton I never got to know my dads brother James who was murdered by his step father at there home in Dingle Mount, I would be gratefull for any memories anyone would have of James, my dad Patrick or the rest or the rest of his family.
Hi, my name is Karen Williams nee Theobald. I also lived in dingle house, 16d. My mum was Maureen Humphreys and dads name was Fred Theobald. Lots of great memories of living in the block . The theobalds were a big family. My nan and grandad lived in dingle lane tennies. My mums mum and dad lived in 7d and then moved to 20d. Elsie and tommy Humphreys. They lived next door to the herons.. We moved to allerton in 1971 and Sarah heron lived over the road from us. Sadly my beautiful dad passed away 10 years ago now, miss him more than words can say, but some of the theobalds are still in the dingle. I remember some people from the block, the bambers, lived in the corner. Ruth used to babysit , my sister, brother and myself. The nelsons johnny and Nellie. Mum and dad used to go the Phoenix with them. Also the nestors and the jones on our landing. We used to live on top of jimmy turner. Love to hear from anyone who remembers me or my family. God bless.
Hi, Roy Thay say coming from the dingle, thay say it is our given rights to have arthrites and a bad chest, so I am told, may be its some thing to do with the old houses we lived in or what came from the oil tanksdocks etc.Names I can remember are Eric cole,,Fred Greaves,, Joe Fogg,,Syd Williams,John Ruderford,Les Owens,and a lad called Sugar who I would play heads at dinner time,My grand parents and great grand parents where from the dingle, Wellington road area and Toxteth Smithdown road I would love to know if your great great grand parents where from Cheadle Staffordshire, I would love a copy of tha old photo to show my grand children, all the very best, dont let the arthrites get you down, thay tell me to keep on the move, thats why I am still working, Syd Hall
Syd please send me your email add and I will send you the Pic!
PS my Grand Father came from Kendal.
Roy sorry for not getting back to you, my email is firstname.lastname@example.org
Fantastic would love a copy if possible.I lived in 3A Southill House my Nan lived in Dingle House next door to the
Cassidy’s,my cousin is Billy McNulty.Remember most of the people on the video.Thank you for bringing back
happy memories.Many Thanks
Would like to see the full video. Sylvia Freeman
Yes Colin, I remember Gerry Dawson organising that trip to Italy that must have been where Dougie Meakin fell in love with the Country I guess? If I remember rightly it cost about £17.00. wow! but most of us could not afford this sum as the average weekly wage was around £10.00. per week…boo hoo! so you where one of the lucky ones. Oh’ by the way Temp here today on the terrace is 36.C.(Valencia)
All the best
syd my eamail address is email@example.com
Hi george,My names kevin johnson i lived in south street in the 1960s was born in 1959,i was brought up in the south end,i used to attend st.finbars in the 1960s.i used to go to school with the cormacks,there was steven,martin ,and they had 2 sisters,we left because they were knocking the houses down,
hi sylvia,i used to go to school with jimmy cassidy.hes dad used to own the sweet shop at the top of admiral street opposite were the police station is now,i dont know if its the same cassidys,sorry my names kevin johnson.i lived in 17 south street,the park road end.
Hi Kevin dont think it is the same Cassidy’s they didnt have a shop,George only had a sister Beryl
thanks for your reply.
Any info please on a whole (missing part of the Dingle). namely ruby st, emerald st, nestor st, loxdale st, hurry st all gone but not fogotten because me and my family and friends lived there bless them all
I remember gladys croft – i went to school with her. I lived in 9e. my mum was kitty borthers and sisters mary, doreen, bobby, willy, margaret marie john and tommy
Hi, the Williams family lived in Ruby Street, they were good friends with my sisters Cathy and Irene and Sandra in the fifties, I have a photo of Ruby street it looks like it was take in 1958 there is a number of children playing where the Williams lived,
Hello there, I would love to see this. I lived on Grafton Street so the above image is most evocative and nostalgic. I left Liverpool when I was 10 in 1971 to move to Woolly Back land but returned to Liverpool most holidays to stay with the Donga’s on Badminton Street. Anyone reading this may remember some of these names.
Well I went to Matthew Arnold and DVS was in class 4AC last year at DVS. I lived at 64 Cleopas Street. Remember coming home from pottery and throwing anything we made off the top floor of the tennies. Jerry Dawson, Bob Corlette were my favorite teachers forgot also Miss Hughes (great set of knockers) hate Percy Leggat and Segal the math teacher. Always wanted to go to Lake Como with Jerry Dawson but with five kids and dad in hospital with TB never gonna happen. Kicked around with Alan Hughes, Mick Talbot and Cliffy Hartly. Bugs Billesbourgh, Kenny Cole and the only black guy in the school Kenny Davis. Great days lot’s of good memories especially New Years Eve on the Dock Road.
We could never afford to go on the Italy trip but other teachers I remember are Cyril Makin,what a shocker he was(first 1ac class) Arthur Upfold,Harry hoole science,martin &Joyce woodwork,Mold metalwork,Jamieson pottery Frank Braillie, headmaster Albert Verr(virr) ex Everton fc,cant remember the history or geography teachers names but one was a weirdo and the other one very reserved.Interesting times but can’t say I really enjoyed school.
just remembered the two missing teachers Caldicott and Holland
For Roy and Syd Hall. I too worked as a paperboy at Sam Coopers, my grandad used to work there as well. His name was Jim Edwards and lived at 16 Garswood St.. I have a photo of my class when I was 7 at Matthew Arnold if anyone would like a copy contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org
I now live in the States but would love to reminisce over the old days. We were poor but I grew up happy. Doors where never locked, if you ran out of anything just go next door borrow theirs and pay them back later. How things change. I lived at 25 Homer St. off Cockburn until1959 and moved to Kensington. My dad Jim Lonsdale was the local chimney sweep and would borrow my bike untile he bought a van, We would then take the kids to Stebble Street baths for a treat where we would have the best hot toast I have ever had. Love to hear from anybody.
I used to buy 2 slices of that toast from the wash house after life saving classes with Bob Corlett ,what a great bloke he was,the toast was the best.
Hi my name is Pauline Kennedy my mum and dad were Winnie and Frank Taylor we lived with my grandad Charlie Heron in 8d Dingle House at one time my Aunty Sarah (Sergison) and her kids lived there as well. I went to St Finbars and remember Mr Thomas the head master a lovely man. I was a nurse working in the 80′s in Walton A&E when Mr Thomas and his sister were brought in after a RTA. I was so surprised to see him. I remember telling the sister in charge that I couldn’t possibly undress him as he was my old headmaster. When I did pluck up the courage to go into the cubical I was greeted with “hello Pauline how are your famy” he then proceeded to rattle off all my cousins names who had also attended St Finbars. They don’t make them like that any more. Likewise Dr’s Yates and Ratoff try and get antibiotics of them lol x
Hello my name is Joyce Sutton [Jennings] lived in Dingle from 1945 to late 60′s would love to see all of this film which has brought bback many memories
for sidney nickson thanks for saying hello it was lovely hearing from you i’m not in facebook but my daughter is Krystall Meakin so get in touch through my daughter ok Sid.
I,ll do that Dougie,Ive’got a book that Jerry Dawson wrote before he died called left theatre,picked it up thru a company called abe books on line.It,s got a couple of photo”s you might be interested in.cheers be in touch,regards Syd
for sid nickson hey sid that would be great if you can send the photies to krystall meakin my daughter and maybe leave your email that way i can talk to you ok Doug.
I couldn,t get a reply from Krystal but my email is email@example.com if you would like to contact me.cheers Syd
hi doug, just looking up streets in the dingle ,and came across your name in the comments column. how are you and your family?
i still see tommy and eileen occasionally and ask tom how you are. tom says he phones you.
i wont type too much , cause i am not exactly a whiz on the computer, and you may not get this message. if you do it would be great to hear from you.
just before i go , i was talking to frankie connor who was interested in some autographed albums i had to sell. when i told him i was your cousin he said he used to play guitar with you in your house in gilpin street, and asked me how you were. hope to hear from you.
My mum Jackie Sergeson was born and raised in the Dingle with a load of siblings. They lived in 21A Dingle Mount.
She always says what a great place to grow up.
hi george nice to hear from you well yes our tommy phones me about every fortnight and keeps me informed about all of you so look after yourself your cousin doug.
Just watched the video. What a blast from the past seeing the old blocks again. My dad and his family lived in one of the blocks. Sorry I cant remember which one. The family name was Burns and my dad was called Jimmy or aka Glimp by his friends. I used to go to my Nan’s house every Sunday when I was growing up and I remember the house was always filled to the brim with my family and friends. My dad was also a avid footballer and played and managered some of the football teams in Dingle. The Sixty, St.Pats and St.Finnbars. I also remember St.Finnbars a lot as my dad and his friends drank their regularly on a Friday night. Thanks for the memories.
Just re-reading the notes and noticed Jerry Dawson’s name a lot. He got me into the Green Dragon drama group and we played in lot’s of productions around Liverpool. Really like Jerry as I was good at PE as it was called then. I remember two guys who had a real hard time in his class John Borlace and a guy called Edwards can’t remember his first name but his parents had a sweet shop on Mill Street. Some other people I remember are Sandy Walker, Dominic Walker they went to the Catholic school and Dominic fell under a lorry and screwed one of his legs up their Dad was a bookies runner for the Cleopas Street area. The Grants who lived between my Nan’s house and our place on Cleopas street, Roger Cotter (we called him Sputnick after the Russian Satellite had bright red hair.
I used to put bets on for my dad with that bookie think his name was Harold Symonds ,used stand up the back jigger always wore an overcoat with big pockets
I’m just remembering the fish and chip shops,Ramsey’s on Park rd,very handy when you got off the bus next to woolies.Farmers on Mill st where Mary( Gerry Marsden’s mum )worked.Lovely lady she was.Merrons on Mill st where I used to work after school,taking the eyes out of 3cwt of spuds a night for 10bob a week and free chips and there was one round the corner from dvs where they would pull the insides out of a french stick and stuff it full of fish and chips,that was school lunch.Ah the memories keep them coming Dinglites I luv it.
I remember getting a weeks worth of disgusting school dinner money and not going. Instead getting a Vienna loaf between two of us and eating the inside while waiting to get fish and chips to put inside. Never tired of that and ate the fish and chips for ages until my Mum found out about it. Then the five fingers of hell (leather strap with five strips cut in it) so no more fish and chips. Hated Friday school dinner fish pie yuck. remember the park we would take the fish and chips down there to eat. If we had enough money we would buy an ice cream sandwich from Richardsons and cover it in syrup.
My mum worked in the fish and chip shop (Wilson’s) on Cleopas Street. Does anyone remember Ginny’s sweet shop on Cleopas street?
Remember the Friday afternoon dancing in the assembly hall? I used to be in love with a girl named Olive can’t remember her last name.
Stebbie baths were I learnt to swim and coming back to school with a towel around our heads kept on by our cossies so we could look like Arabs.
Syd Nickson I remember all the teachers you mentioned. Do you remember Miss Hughes?
Yes I remember Miss Hughes first bit of fresh air in dvs,unfortunately I was never in her class,also remember friday afternoon country dancing and the mad dash across the hall to skid to a halt in front of your favourite.Can,t remember the lady teachers name who was Frank Brailies partner,tall with a lovely body.Memories hey and it was only 55 years ago.
Yes we lived in 26 cleopas street we moved there in 1959 and left when the houses were demolished we remember ginny delehoey
Alice and Tommy, We had moved around about 1959 out to a corpy house in Allerton just around the corner from Paul’s house. Delahoy that’s the name, I couldn’t remember the last name. Had a great sweet collection. So you must have lived quite close to Beresford Road? I took early retirement at 59 and now live in Mexico. Left Liverpool 1969 for Canada but have lived in so many places and countries since. Funny just saw a post talking about Toffee Holland a teacher at DVS and that is what everyone called me…k
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Reading all the messages I just found on this site brings back memories. Ken I went on the trip to Lake Como with Gerry Dawson and his family with other lads at Easter when I was 13yrs old. Was a great trip. you mentioning it brought back memories. I remember all the teachers mentioned some fondly others not so fondly. I think Gerry was my favorate teacher even though I didn’t like PE that much. Caldecote we had for history and he was also my class teacher for a while. He was okay once you got him talking about the war. I went 4 yrs before I relised he had false teeth when he flashed them in the last weeks remaining in school lol. Happy Days and fond Memories.
Robert, I wish I could have gone to Italy (we had no money) but I’ll always remember the name of the place you went to was Lake Como. What a beautiful place it is. The one teacher I hated was Segal the math teacher. I know this is not politically correct but we always said Hitler killed six million Jew and missed him. He was brutal would come up along side you and pull you up by the sideburns. He would pretend to be asleep and then throw the board duster at you. Loved Bob Corlett he taught me the joy of reading. Wished I could have got more out of Music with Percy Leggatt as I know have taken up the guitar and am learning to read music. I was in 4ac the very first AC class so we also had Caldecote but I loved history so he was OK. Didn’t seem like it at the time but I look back and say with what the teachers had to put up with then they did a pretty good job. Up to 50+ in some classes and now you hear teachers complaining if they have 20 and no teachers aide. Cheers
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Anybody remember my grandad Ronald Wilson he played guitar around dingle pubs an used to run st Malachys club
He was married to Veronica Powell ( ronnie an rene Wilson )
Who later lived 2 bowring close
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Went to DVS 1962 – 1964 remember all the teachers above, I worked the projector for Jerries after school film nights and sometimes during lessons. My dad help t out with a motor maintenance class can not remember teachers name.
Went on the loggerheads holiday at Colomendy then in 1964 – 1965 went to the residential school there.
anyone remember the funday we had, my dad was giving rides on a converted ford prefect.
One of the gyms was used for a navigation class room, must have enjoyed that as I later became a Lieutenant in the Sea Cadets and was the commanding offficer for 8 years at TS Falcon in Wisbech.
Have how retired and live in North Wales with Chris my wife off over 40 years
Loved navigation hated math if you had told me navigation was math i probably would have hated it. Like anything else it is so dependant on the teacher. I hated Segal and was terrified of the punishment. Same with Percy Leggat he didn’t have a clue how to teach. If you got the stick which most of the class i was in did you had to choose from an umbrella stand what stick he would use. I remember Kenny Cole and Bary Billsbourgh telling him to F€&k Off and getting sent down to Daddy Verr’s office. Somebody put sugar into Leggats gas tank after that.
I started school at Our Lady of Mount Carmel, South Hill Road, 1951 and left in 1955 when my family moved to Kirkby.
I did revisited the school in 1991 and was introduced to a classmate, Julie/Julia Foster/Forster, probably wrong spelling so I apologize in advance, who was actually teaching there.
The lady that introduced us was the school secretary, the same school secretary that had inscribed me forty years earlier!!!
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I started school at Our Lady of Mount Carmel, South Hill Road, 1951 and left in 1955 when my family moved to Kirkby.
I did revisited the school in 1991 and was introduced to a classmate, Julie/Julia Foster/Forster, probably wrong spelling so I apologize in advance, who was actually teaching there.
The lady that introduced us was the school secretary, the same school secretary that had inscribed me forty years earlier!!!
Julie/Julia and I had a wonderful chat about Miss Malone, Mr. Castel, Miss Walsh and Mr. Killykelly. I really loved that school and was so happy there.
Me mums side of the family were born and raised in Liverpool 8 – The Sergesons (Serges)
They lived in Dingle Mount from 1955-1982.
My mum recalls the Bambers, Irons, Taylors
Hi Sid Nickson, I was in the same class as you and left DVS in 1959. I think the geography teacher was TOFFEE Holland, music teacher was Percy Legget. I remember Jerry Dawson trying to teach me how to do headsprings in between those games of pirates that we used to play. I remember names like Alphie Ponter George Smith, the Predagasts, Albert Hog, Tommy Higgins and lots more from class 4AC.
I lived the Southhill Hotel pub, opposite Our Lady Mount Carmel, until dad died in 1952 when we moved to Great George Street but I stayed on at Matthew Arnold and then DVS.
Would be grateful of any photos of DVS in the fifties.
Hi I played football for the Florie, went to upper park St and Wellington rd school lived in letitia St . My mate was John Bell, we used to go to the Victoriana every week. Anyone out there remember us?
I lived South Street 1935/1956 St Silas School/Dingle Vale Cousins named Crosbie Lost touch when moved Midlands. Birthday 80comes June 2015 Good reading everything . Wonder if anymore old urns around?
I lived in Beloe St (born 1942) and went to Parkhill Rd school which we shared with Cof E children until St Finbars was built. We moved on handcarts which the children helped to push. Left in 1953 when I passed 11+ so didn’t get to move up to Mount Carmel with my friends. Gerrard Marsden was in my class(Gerry and the Pacemakers) and Alan Rudkin who was a celebrated boxer. My best friend in St Finbars was Maureen Regan
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Hi I am dave maltby,said (not moltby ) younger brother Len we lived in Leonora st (29)with younger brother stephen parents Margaret & jim our grandparents lived @27 Edith and Jack Tyrer with son Len daughters Dorothy and Edith I have wonderful memories of living there and still visit park rd to day calling at the pineapple and Anglesey
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